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Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by Keymn » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:29 am

There has been an interest in controlling the Fr4x with Songbook+ app.
Check out the link below on instruction. I have tried it and it works!
Select a song on the iPad app, the accordion set or user program changes.

https://baumsoftware.freshdesk.com/en/s ... 7000051000

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by JerryPH » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:05 am

Very impressive! For live performers, this is a big time saver!

Now let's let imagination go one step further and ask... can it configure a Roland BK-7m at the same time? If yes, being able to just chose a song and the rhythm, tempo, initial instruments, your V-Accordion settings all get activated from the selection of a song on an iPad... that would be almost a must-have for any live performer of this genre!!
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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by Keymn » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:02 am

JerryPH wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:05 am
Very impressive! For live performers, this is a big time saver!

Now let's let imagination go one step further and ask... can it configure a Roland BK-7m at the same time? If yes, being able to just chose a song and the rhythm, tempo, initial instruments, your V-Accordion settings all get activated from the selection of a song on an iPad... that would be almost a must-have for any live performer of this genre!!
Yes, I just tried it with my Korg PA3x. Select the song on the iPad, it changed them both! You need another ud-bt01 plugged in the arranger. In my case, I just had a spare mi.1 which I plugged into the Korg. I do not have a BK7m, Korg has Songbook with numbers. I think BK7m has performance numbers you can set up? Correct me if I am wrong.

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https://baumsoftware.freshdesk.com/solu ... 0049698/en

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by torch » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:27 pm

Keymn wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:29 am
There has been an interest in controlling the Fr4x with Songbook+ app.
Check out the link below on instruction. I have tried it and it works!
Select a song on the iPad app, the accordion set or user program changes.

https://baumsoftware.freshdesk.com/en/s ... 7000051000
Great info. I tried Set List Maker in my IOS device with the 4x. It works well, too. I used a USB cable because don't have the Yamaha UD-BT01. Yamaha has not written a Windows driver for the UD-BT01, and I've been waiting for Korg or anyone else to come out with one. All Bluetooth midi devices by Korg support Windows through their Bluetooth driver. I have to use a Bluetooth MIDI receiver to use the UD-BT01 on Windows.

How did you mount the UD-BT01 on your FR4x?

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by Keymn » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:58 pm

torch wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:27 pm
Keymn wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:29 am
There has been an interest in controlling the Fr4x with Songbook+ app.
Check out the link below on instruction. I have tried it and it works!
Select a song on the iPad app, the accordion set or user program changes.

https://baumsoftware.freshdesk.com/en/s ... 7000051000
Great info. I tried Set List Maker in my IOS device with the 4x. It works well, too. I used a USB cable because don't have the Yamaha UD-BT01. Yamaha has not written a Windows driver for the UD-BT01, and I've been waiting for Korg or anyone else to come out with one. All Bluetooth midi devices by Korg support Windows through their Bluetooth driver. I have to use a Bluetooth MIDI receiver to use the UD-BT01 on Windows.

How did you mount the UD-BT01 on your FR4x?
The UD-bt-01 is plugged into an outlet as illustrated in the link. Wireless would require a short USB cable, maybe 3" which is hard to find. A USB battery. All very small but need some more research on the mounting. What is really clean is Quicco Mi.1 plugged into midi in/out of the FR8X. Yamaha has the similar, md-bt01.

It would be interesting to ask if those new Roland pianos with built in Bluetooth can do the same function as the UD-BT01?

The reason I bought a Korg was because of the Songbook+ App which already had instructions to connect. It is easier to set up, all you need is to insert a decimal Songbook number in the code box. No need to use those midi bank wheels.

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by torch » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:35 am

If you plug the UD-bt-01 in an AC outlet, you might as well use a USB cable, but if you are going to go totally wireless you can use a USB battery pack as you mentioned.

6 inch USB cable
https://www.amazon.com/YCS-Basics-Black ... +usb+cable

USB Battery Pack
https://www.amazon.com/SINOELE-Portable ... Bpack&th=1

Look how this person mounted the UD-BT-01 on his MIDI device. The pic is at the bottom of the page.
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopi ... 3&t=482020

I would mount the whole thing near the LCD screen. You can run a USB cable behind the backpad. In my case, I would reserve the only Din MIDI on the 4x for doing pitch bend, Rotary Slow/Fast, Break, and etc from a midi foot controller. If you are driving an an external module or an arranger, midi can be routed through the the IOS device while you are changing sets and UPGs from your SongBook+. My, that's a lot of ins and outs. I noticed that the midi foot controller messages sent to the FR4x also go out and do the same in the attached external module. That's kind of nice. As for Roland, there is only one lower end keyboard besides their digital piano that is equipped with Bluetooth midi. Not a big deal. The Yamaha UD-bt-01 will give the function,.

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by JerryPH » Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:15 am

TIme for me to start saving for an iPad Pro 2... lol
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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by Keymn » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:21 am

Like that battery pack recommendation for the USB.
I too need my midi port for midijet or midi cable to control arranger.

Looking at the Beat Buddy
https://singularsound.com/
It has midi in/out for Mi.1 or the Md-bt01 for remote drum beat selection like an arranger. I think this can be programmed for songbook+ to change rhythms and tempo.
This pedal maybe all we need for dance hall performances. Do we need more?

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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by JerryPH » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:42 pm

Keymn wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:21 am
This pedal maybe all we need for dance hall performances. Do we need more?
I don't know... I thought I was all set with a FR-8X and a BK-7m... and now look! :lol:
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Re: Songbook+, Roland FR4x and IPad

Post by Keymn » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:22 pm

JerryPH wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:42 pm
Keymn wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:21 am
This pedal maybe all we need for dance hall performances. Do we need more?
I don't know... I thought I was all set with a FR-8X and a BK-7m... and now look! :lol:
You are all set! I am trying to cut down my luggage and eliminate the need to lug my Korg around.
But it is interesting how different music hardware manufacturers tend to cater to IPad users.

(Just a note on my comment on controlling both the BK-7m in unison with accordion bank change. It may not work.
The reason it works for me is because the Korg has Songbook numbers, in Songbook+ you insert the song number in the code box. Then set the midi wheels on that song to control the accordion Bank, program, set changes). Here is the Korg manual.
http://www.korg.com/download/global/pas ... r_iPad.pdf

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