Baile accordion thoughts?



Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby m33ksy » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:25 am

Good morning all,

I was hoping you might be able to give me some advice on the Baile make, is it acceptable or should it be avoided?
Many thanks
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby artelagro » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:19 am

The accordionist in our local Morris group plays a 120 bass Baile and I have seen it getting some very rough treatment, but it still does the job.
p.s. Baile and Parrot have been the Chinese standard workhorses for many years now. There have been many UK players who cut their teeth on these.
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby debra » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:27 am

artelagro wrote:The accordionist in our local Morris group plays a 120 bass Baile and I have seen it getting some very rough treatment, but it still does the job.
p.s. Baile and Parrot have been the Chinese standard workhorses for many years now. There have been many UK players who cut their teeth on these.
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I fully agree. There is a lot of rubbish coming from China (in terms of accordions), a lot of it with serious mechanical flaws. But Baile and Parrot have been in the business for long enough to have ironed out these problems. It is still Chinese sound quality but can be a good "workhorse".
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby m33ksy » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:28 pm

I did have my doubts when I saw that it was on the chinese list but thought I'd ask. Sounds fine then as a secondary accordion for travelling! Thanks all again for your great advice.
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby debra » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:06 pm

m33ksy wrote:I did have my doubts when I saw that it was on the chinese list but thought I'd ask. Sounds fine then as a secondary accordion for travelling! Thanks all again for your great advice.

The Chinese list is not (completely) intended to list bad instruments to avoid. It is more to let people know which Italian or other non-chinese sounding names are really Chinese. For instance, people might think that a "Scarlatti" should be an Italian accordion, but nope, it's Chinese. And the same is true for many other names. Having a deceiving name does not necessarily mean the instrument is bad.
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby landro » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:23 pm

Having worked in the past on a few 3 Chinese accordions , I`d avoid purchasing a used Baile or any other used accordion made in China . Hopefully their newer models are better constructed and with better materials.
With that said, I have to ask why anyone would consider a used Chinese accordion when the market is flooded with so many better Italian and German ones.
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby losthobos » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:44 am

I have been using a Korean built Moreshi 72 bass as my cheap 'Streetfighter' accordion for the last three years where I don't want to take my good box..
Worth a look if you're on a budget,,,and nice tone too..just saying..
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby Glenn » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:49 am

"Street fighter"? The mind boggles.
1) Ballone Burini 46C (4+5) cassotto (LMMH) 3/3 PA; 2) Accordiola Piano V (5+5) cassotto (LMMMH) 3/3 PA;
3) Roland FR8X; 4) Hohner Vox 4k (LMMH) 3/3 CBA
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby debra » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:03 am

landro wrote:Having worked in the past on a few 3 Chinese accordions , I`d avoid purchasing a used Baile or any other used accordion made in China . Hopefully their newer models are better constructed and with better materials.
With that said, I have to ask why anyone would consider a used Chinese accordion when the market is flooded with so many better Italian and German ones.

That is a good point. While Baile and Parrot have been in the market for long and *now* know how to build a usable accordion, that does not say anything about the built-quality of older boxes from the period where they were still learning how accordions should work.
In my opinion the best used boxes to get are older Hohners, not too old though. A Verdi II (96b LMM) or III (120b LMM) or V (120b LMMM) from the era where they have the white register switches is essentially indestructible. They were made to last a lifetime but actually last more than just one lifetime.
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Re: Baile accordion thoughts?

Postby Soulsaver » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:17 pm

debra wrote:In my opinion the best used boxes to get are older Hohners, not too old though. A Verdi II (96b LMM) or III (120b LMM) or V (120b LMMM) from the era where they have the white register switches is essentially indestructible. They were made to last a lifetime but actually last more than just one lifetime.

I'll second that, I've got a several variations of them.
I know a good player who uses a parrot as a back up - the '70s Scandalli (copy or maybe licenced?) looking one with chrome pans. And it sounds good.. it must do, his main is a Super 6.
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