Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 pm

Hi Graham,

You could well be right, old Scout.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Corsaire » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:49 am

Not really connected to the original posting, but pertinent to the subsequent discussion .....

Articles made in China, whether of Chinese design or from elsewhere, have the reputation of being shoddily made. But this is surely down to bad quality control rather than Chinese goods being universally badly made ! Many well-known companies outside China have their goods manufactured in China (probably due to production costs) and their reputation does not appear to have been tarnished by this fact.

Was it not a similar situation many years ago when musical instruments were being made in Japan ? The Japanese would take the best European-made instruments like guitars or pianos, and copy them. As a result, Yamaha pianos are widely used for concerts and hold their own perfectly well against makes like Steinway. At first, Japanese goods were also treated with suspicion, but they advanced in leaps and bounds and became well known for the quality of their work at more interesting prices.

Choosing the right instrument is something that one can be advised on, but the final choice comes down to the individual. If it feels comfortable to play and you like the sound it produces, it doesn't matter how old it is, who made it or what the price tag is. There are so many factors to take into account in choosing an accordion that I'm not sure that there is one that can necessarily fill all these desires/needs !

I have long been a fan of Czech-made Delicia accordions (I've gone from 120 bass to 96 and now 72 compact for practical and physical reasons). There is little mention of them on this forum but they are cracking instruments !

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:19 pm

Corsaire,

A breath of fresh air.
Your post demonstrates an understanding of individual needs and preferences, together with a rational and refined attitude toward instruments from non-traditional manufacturing nations.

I have listened to a few Delicia's on YouTube, and found them to be very pleasant. I also know that you have recently listened to a 120 Bass Musette tuned Chanson, and that you found it to be a very nice instrument.

Please give my best to Mike.

Kindest Regards,

Stephen.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Corsaire » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:00 am

Stephen - I think it's often the case of how the instrument is played and by whom. It's worth listening to what a really good player can get out of an instrument before jumping to conclusions, particularly when starting out.
Of course it depends entirely on what you want out of an instrument as it's not possible to put all accordions in the same boat.

On a personal level, my one try of a friend's Roland frightened the life out of me - but then so does a Smartphone !!!

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by JerryPH » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:04 pm

Corsaire wrote:On a personal level, my one try of a friend's Roland frightened the life out of me - but then so does a Smartphone !!!
For a short period of time, I too was thinking "what the heck did I get in to..." with my 8x... but a little grim determination, time and practice, and things get better quite fast. :)
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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:52 pm

Jerry,

I have never tried a Roland, but applaud anyone who gives it a go. It is highly doubtful that I will ever want to own or play a Roland, as they just don't seem to fit my character.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Glenn » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:28 pm

Hi Jerry. Was your determination so "grim"? :)
I saw it more as a determination to learn a new "technique".
It's quite exciting discovering new things and making connections between sounds and actions. Even the new mechanical skill of a different bellows action was good for my acoustic playing as it gave me a different way to measure the pressure I had to apply which fed back into my acoustic bellows action being much more positive than previously. Don't know if you had any teachings from digital to acoustic?


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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by JerryPH » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:23 am

Stephen Hawkins wrote:Jerry,
I have never tried a Roland, but applaud anyone who gives it a go. It is highly doubtful that I will ever want to own or play a Roland, as they just don't seem to fit my character.
It's definitely not for everyone, that I can accede... but you will never be sure until you see one face to face played by someone with experience and, more importantly, right after that, give it a shot yourself. :)
Glenn wrote:Hi Jerry. Was your determination so "grim"? :)
I saw it more as a determination to learn a new "technique".
It's quite exciting discovering new things and making connections between sounds and actions. Even the new mechanical skill of a different bellows action was good for my acoustic playing as it gave me a different way to measure the pressure I had to apply which fed back into my acoustic bellows action being much more positive than previously. Don't know if you had any teachings from digital to acoustic?
Whenever I want to learn something, and it doesn't come easy, yeah, I fall in to that grim determination mode. The technical challenges it presented early on to me drove me a bit bonkers-nuts, and I had to figure out a lot on my own, and ask for help on a few others (I am not good at asking questions of others, so you know it was making me think!), It's like I cannot let it beat me, I won't have any of that... lol

It *is* exciting, I am amazed each time I put the accordion on. The versatility and possibilities are endless, and that's what makes it so good. I had zero experience with a V- accordion before I bought it. Though I had read through the manual several times before I made the purchase, I actually learned how to turn it on the day I bought it! For me, this is the first accordion that makes every song a piece of a puzzle. Before, I would have different registrations for a piece. Now, I have to find that combination of perfect fit of sounds on the left and right hands, and then when layering sounds to expand on the experience for any given song... it just blows my mind at all that it can do!

Before, every song on the accordion was a pleasure, the V-accordion takes that experience to levels I could not experience anywhere else in any other way... even my Elkavox pales in comparison... yes, it does some things not all that great, but it does so many things SO amazingly well. The first time I performed with it this Christmas, I know the crowd was blown away, but I think that I was more impressed with the accordion than the crowd was! :D
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