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Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:17 am
by Howie
On multiple occasions I've seen the advice to "always finish a piece with the bellows closed".

Is there a reason for this apart from it looking a bit neater?

I have to admit that one of my challenges is to just get the change of direction right, let alone setting them up so I can finish neatly with closed bellows. Mind you it is satisfying when I can.

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 3:14 am
by Zevy
It's purely aesthetic. It looks nicer that way. That and "never look at your fingers" were very important lessons from my teacher, Charles Nunzio.

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:15 am
by george garside
this is just a ''classical' affectation and on that basis is fine if you feel the urge so to do! However it is entirely unnecessary and the punters wouldn't notice it anyway if the final close is niftily carried out using the air button . this can be facilitated by coming to the end of a tune on the 'push' so the air button closure is a continuation thereof.

I don't know for certain but the idea of playing to closed may have originated from when many Russian accordions did not have an air button ,the alternative beign to walk off stage with open bellows and play a bit more tune elsewhere to close them!

george

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:47 am
by debra
I have seen this first and foremost among Russian players. I also always try to do it (unless impossible), and in my newest quintet we all try to do it. It is indeed more aesthetically pleasing. And once you put your mind to it is is actually not all that hard to do.

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:27 pm
by JackieC
This was something my accordion teacher taught me on the first day of my lessons. She was a stickler for making sure I always got it right, and to this day, I always start with the bellows closed and end up with bellows closed. I think it looks sloppy when the bellows are left open at the end of a tune.

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:59 pm
by george garside
I agree that it looks sloppy when bellows are left open at end of a tune but can't ( perhaps as a humble 'folkie') see the point in agonising over playing to precisely 'shut'. I never leave my bellows open at the end of a tune but often use a touch of air button for the final part of the closure which only a professional box player would be aware of!

george :evil: ;)

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:04 pm
by Zevy
JackieC wrote: I always start with the bellows closed and end up with bellows closed.


Sometimes one must start with the bellows partially open in order to facilitate a long legato run soon after the first few measures. It's the same as string players would do with the bow.
For example, the beginning of "Silver Moon Waltz" of Frosini.

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:51 pm
by JerryPH
It really is visual, for me, nothing all that important. I would much rather concentrate on proper bellows control and not cut off notes, irrespective of if I ended closed or open. Do it if it's convenient, and don't give it a second thought, is my opinion. On some accordions (bisonoric), one sometimes has absolutely no choice about starting OR ending bellows positions anyway based on the song being played. :)

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:39 pm
by george garside
on a 'bisonoric' 3 row box many tunes can be played with only a few pleats of the bellows open but on others you do not have a choice of where the bellows finish up. If playing Scottish dance music a chord aat either end of the tune can sort things out!

I agree totally with Jerry about it not being all that important!


george

Re: Ending with closed bellows

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:09 pm
by Stephen Hawkins
I have never given this subject a minute's thought, as I am just happy if I conclude a piece of music with no glaring mistakes. In fact, I rarely ever think about the bellows, trusting that instinct borne of experience will see me through.

Anyway, as someone has already pointed out, there is always the air button. I'm certainly not going to fret about finishing with closed bellows.