Campane



Campane

Postby Matt Butcher » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:40 pm

I've been quiet lately (not much time to play either) so just to say hello and maybe encourage someone else to post what they do (no claim that this is good playing, it's definitely not error free cos once that microphone goes on anything can happen)

Campane (i.e. Bells), from 1932, by Di Lazzaro and Cherubini, transcribed from a later recording by Sheri Mignano Crawford on her great CD Rom "Mandolin Melodies". There's an "ambient" side to some Italian tangos from the early days onwards, as far as I can hear (same goes for some of the Italian interpretations of Latin dance music) - that's what I'd be aiming at if I was playing better. The tempo's about right I think.

Dropbox has gone weird, so it's on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MRhE3bHhb9k. No need to comment/no need to listen.
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Re: Campane

Postby maugein96 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:34 pm

Thanks Matt. Nice sounds from your accordion, and if there was the odd imperfection then it never detracted from the tune.
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Re: Campane

Postby losthobos » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:27 am

Lovely...I do love the sound of the melancholy understated tango... well restrained where it's so easily to ruin by playing over theatrically :)
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Re: Campane

Postby Matt Butcher » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:55 pm

Thank you both. You are kind - but if I manage to get across what I'm trying to do, then I'm satisfied for now. I am enjoying delving into the musical past as well and seeing if I can make anything of it.
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Re: Campane

Postby losthobos » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:07 am

Matt...here's another tango from the same era, an absolutely beautiful Polish one, you've reminded me to try and learn it... enjoy. https://youtu.be/GT3Lf6-5HgI
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Re: Campane

Postby Matt Butcher » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:34 am

Yes, that's a beautiful tune and with those chords it should be right up your street - how did you know about it? I look forward to hearing it.
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Re: Campane

Postby JerryPH » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:28 am

Matt, lovely tune! If I can offer, you should try to play it with a bit more confidence. There are several moments where you playing is tentative, almost shy and a Tango should be played with gusto and bravado. What I really enjoyed is that you lacked no emotion when playing and that was lovely.

Please keep up the good work, it's better everytime we hear you. :)
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Re: Campane

Postby Matt Butcher » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:58 am

Hi Jerry, I really appreciate the kind words and your comments. The things I've posted here recently are almost as simple as you can get while still being viable bits of music, but it's just good to play, better than watching the telly. The advice on the performance is also goood and I just wanted to chat about that briefly.

The Italian tango is or was or can be a bit of a different beast from the Argentinian tango, the Piazolla tango etc. There is even a big section about this in a book called "Songs of the Minotaur" by Steingress. It tended to be smoother, flatter with less accented rhythm (and my midi expander confirms this, if you put it on the "Italian tango" setting, very little happens). It might also be mournful, reflective etc (which I know an Argentinian tango can be as well). The original recording of this is quite interesting because it has sung sections which are "flat" and accented dance band sections in between. (It also has a novelty bing-bong, bing-bong thing which isn't in the transcribed sheet music so I just stuck that on the beginning and the end.). Anyway, that's where the idea of a more low key performance.came from especially as this seemed to be a tragic song.

BUT you are right of course, my playing is too tentative. Partly because I get nervous when I press record and the only answer to that is practice and mental approach/relaxation. Partly I did some things that don't work so well, the bits where I'm just brushing the notes in with minimum attack just kill the dance rhythm and the basses are not always crisp enough. So - thanks for taking the time, the comments all help me. Next up, I hope, will be a mazurka and if I play that shyly then I deserve a slap! Thank you.
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Re: Campane

Postby maugein96 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:52 am

Matt,

Until you posted I had no idea that there was more than one type of tango, although it seems to be the case (IMO) that every country who takes it on board has its own way of dealing with it. The Brazilians even manage to jazz the tango up so that you have to take a minute or two to work out the tune, even if it's a famous one. When I first started playing accordion I never knew what a tango was, but decided that 7 or 8 minutes listening to guys sometimes only playing a few notes between long pauses on a bandoneon was perhaps a specialised form of music I didn't particularly care for. It could have had yards of emotion, emulsion, or whatever, I just wasn't keen on it.

However, when I discovered lighter versions being played on accordion, I actually got to like one or two of them (only one or two mind!).

It seems I am one of a minority on here who only goes in for "easy listening" tunes, as basically that's all I can play, even on a good day. My education never extended to the subtleties and nuances of the various classical music styles, although I appreciate they have a strong following on the forum. In spite of things, on many an occasion I've loaded a clip on You Tube, and when I've seen the player dressed in a black suit and a bow tie, I've been too slow to shut the clip down but then actually enjoyed what the player was doing, even if I am musically "illiterate". In recent years I am more inclined to listen without necessarily having the desire to try and play what I hear, unless it is a foot-tapping happy go lucky type of tune. Then I'll try it by ear, and if I can get the first bit down, I'll try and work the rest out from the dots. If it is too complicated I'll leave it to the experts and move on. That's the extent of my musical "knowledge". There may be others like me on the forum, but I reckon not many would admit to it.

After a wee while Matt, where the "record button stage fright syndrome" was prevalent, you settled down and it came across as a pleasant tune. We are all interested in music of various kinds, and it's great to hear music of any kind on here. Will you ever hear me? I had been thinking about it for a while, but I'm not so sure I could kick the nerves out when I hit that record button. Also, I know I am a crap bass player, so that in itself would probably mean a "no show".

Well done again Matt!
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Re: Campane

Postby losthobos » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:32 am

Matt....it's lovely as it is...beautiful understatement is a real honesty based skill...keep it up
My father taught me to listen to the polish/italian tango's of the thirties and indeed they are different creatures to their more Hispanic cousins...my old boy couldn't stick the Argentinian ones...sadly he's no longer here but I am more grateful as time goes on for his musical influence...even if it was just a record player...
He spent his last days in hospital listening to soft tango's on my mp3 player an Kurt Weill's Tango Ballade was played at his funeral...
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