Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

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Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:49 am

Some of you may recall that I was recently offered a 120 Bass instrument, currently the property of a friend of a friend's elderly parent. I was also informed that the instrument was "huge", and that it was probably Italian.

I knew that the informant was not an accordionist, but thought her initial description of the instrument could be relied upon. How wrong could I be?

Further investigation has now revealed that this accordion is a 64 year old Hohner VM 48 Bass, and not the Italian 120 Bass I was expecting to see. It is my own fault for assuming knowledge where none exists ..... I should have known better.

The current owner now holds a deep sentimental attachment to this instrument, which suits me down to the ground. It saves me the embarrassment of having to significantly deflate the value which sentimentality alone places on a prized possession.

Anyway, nothing lost.

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Post by JerryPH » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:24 am

A little stroke of luck for you. :)

I personally know first hand how deep sentimentality can overinflate the value of an instrument, but that would only ever come in to play if the instrument ever was to be sold. Up to and until that day, if it ever comes (which I doubt), my own accordion is simply priceless as well... lol.
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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Soulsaver » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:47 pm

Hohner Student VM 48 bass? Great little accordion - in good condition far, far better at 60 years old than a new Chinese one IMO.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:22 pm

Jerry,

As you know from a previous thread, I feel the same about shirts. My own dear Missus sees things rather differently, and I am often shocked when I discover yet another of my shirts has been rent asunder to satisfy the need for dusters.

Soulsaver,

I have no doubt that the little Hohner is a fine instrument, but it is not the one for me. The lady who offered me the instrument led me to believe that it was a 120 Bass, and that it was Italian. Her description of it was from memory, but she was adamant that it was a "huge" accordion.

I currently use a 72 Bass, which is all I need for the moment. My only interest in the instrument I was offered was that it may fulfil a future need. I have no use for a 48 Bass instrument, and am pleased that it is not available.

As for a 64 year old Hohner being better than a new Chinese made one, that would depend on the make of Chinese accordion selected. You cannot continue to lump all Chinese instruments together, as some are actually very well made. Knowing the difference between a lemon and a decent quality instrument is key, and my research has been very thorough. There is some rubbish out there, but there are also some genuinely well made Chinese instruments. (including Hohner, these days)

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Post by Soulsaver » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:51 pm

Ok maybe I learn from your research. Which Chinese 48 bass did you decide was better than a good condition mid 50's Hohner Student VM 48?
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Post by JIM D. » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 pm

I'm also very curious, what well made, make, or model China 48 bass do you speak of ??? :roll:
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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:30 pm

Soulsaver,

I haven't really looked at 48 Bass Chinese instruments, though I have looked at and listened to quite a few 96 & 120 Bass accordions. I have also spoken to people I know and trust, and have visited numerous websites which feature Chinese instruments.

I have had good reports about Black Diamond Accordions, though my knowledge of them is limited. My personal choice of a 72 Bass Chanson has left me with no regrets. It is an instrument I use every day, and it works perfectly well.

The pros and cons of buying new Chinese or second hand European creates a dilemma, though I am quite happy to consider a new Pearl River. The Pearl River company is (I understand) the biggest piano manufacturer in the World, with Steinway & Son trusting them to build three of their piano models. In fact, Pearl River manufacture huge numbers of instruments for leading brands, so they must be getting something right.

In the early 60's, I owned a few motorbikes. These included Ariel and Norton which, at the time, seemed peerless. My friends & I laughed at people who bought Japanese bikes, thinking ourselves much smarter than anyone who rode a Suzuki or Honda. We all know what happened over the next few years, so I am reluctant to tar all Chinese instruments with the same brush for fear of looking stupid.

The laptop I am using to type this comment was made in China, as is the TV, DVD player, Set Top Box and pretty well every other electrical product we own. We had all better get used to the fact that the Chinese are capable of making good quality products at very reasonable prices, and that European manufacturers are right up to their necks in farming out manufacturing in order to maximise profits.

At no time have I ever criticised European Accordions, and I can only conclude that criticism of Chinese Accordions is just a rather lazy generalisation. Sure there are rubbish Chinese boxes out there ..... I know of a few that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, but I also know that there are some very decently made ones available for those who take the trouble to look.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:21 pm

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

My accordion tutor is a professional musician. He actually makes his living by performing live and selling CD's. He heads up a band, and owns his own recording studio. Jon is also a good friend of mine, and we have played together many times.

Jon is a multi-instrumentalist, playing practically anything he can pick up. He is a brilliant accordionist, as was his Dad before him, and can make his Bugari talk when he is performing live.

The Chanson that I currently own was one of his stage instruments before he bought the Bugari. He played it all over the country, and used it on a few recordings. Though he recognises that his Bugari and Hohner are better instruments, he still maintains that the Chanson is a decent instrument.

If Jon thinks it is a good instrument, that is good enough for me.

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Re: Into Every Life, A little Rain Must Fall.

Post by bocsa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:42 pm

Which hunt?

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