Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Keymn » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:42 pm

Glenn wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:30 pm
Hi Jerry,

I was worried that the four slot limit would be the achilles heel of the new sounds.
I probably won't boot out the 4 I already have.
Looking forward to the editor though.
Can you demo the effects of your edits in "real time" or do you have to do constant writing too and fro from the PC/FR8X?
All in real time...you just need to write it to wherever.

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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Keymn » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:45 pm

Keymn wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:42 pm
Glenn wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:30 pm
Hi Jerry,

I was worried that the four slot limit would be the achilles heel of the new sounds.
I probably won't boot out the 4 I already have.
Looking forward to the editor though.
Can you demo the effects of your edits in "real time" or do you have to do constant writing too and fro from the PC/FR8X?
All in real time...you just need to write it to wherever. If same as 4x. When you did editing before on 8x, was it in real-time?

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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Glenn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Installed the V2.50 patch and indeed the FR8X boots faster. Wasn't expecting that.


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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by JerryPH » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:58 am

Editing on the 8X itself before was realtime, and now it is also realtime using the editor.

I am over 400 km from home tonight but I will be back tomorrow late afternoon. Sadly, I have 3 big projects to complete Sunday before I can start to fool around some more with my 8X, but this week I will be reserving small moments for the accordion. :)
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Glenn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:21 am

Bad news from my side.
I'm close to giving up on the editor.
I cannot get it to connect to my FR8X.
I've followed all the instructions to the letter but no luck on my Windows 10 system (64bit).
- set USB in FR8X to "original".
- USB device installs
- Roland Arranger 10.0 devices IN/OUT appear in editor
- checking devices says device working correctly
- If I select in/OUT in editor and press refresh button to make connection it keeps reverting to "none".
- checking in my sequencer to see if MIDI driver working it sees the MIDI input fine and I can record it so from that point of view the driver works.

Am at a loss so far.

I'll try perhaps with my laptop to see if that works but I don't hold out much hope.
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Glenn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:05 am

Good news from my side.
Installed the whole thing on my laptop.
New drivers.
New installation of Java run-time.
This time it worked.
Really not sure what's going on with my desktop in that case..
Still, now I can try it out at least.
First negative
- the interface does not scale so the window size is fixed by the screen resolution. On a laptop that equates to "very small".
First positive
- the edits are written rather fast. Makes real-time changes comfortable
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by JerryPH » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:20 am

Hey Glenn, it sounds to me like a USB comopatibility error. Try removing the existing driver and replace it with the one from Roland... or if that is the one you used, remove it and install the generic USB driver that comes with Win10.

I was kind of pleasantly surprised that it even works on my laptop's Server 2012... lol
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Glenn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:10 pm

Tried removing and restarting.
No effect.
I have looked at the driver details in the working laptop and non-working desktop.
All versions, dates, install events look identical.
Anyway, at least I have one working copy.

By the way, I note the editor doesn't have a User Program List editor panel. Pity. Would be nice to collect together your UPLs in a simple manner.
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by JerryPH » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:04 pm

Yes that is an oversight, however lists are easy to use and setup from the 8x so no loss there.
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Re: Roland FR-8X: New firmware, editor, and sound expansions

Post by Keymn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:48 am

I get timeout errors at times when hooked up to the editor when I switch to program another register. Have to restart program. Using win10. Could be my older laptop speed or? Roland mentioned too that the power settings may have to be set to high performance on the pc (based upon another users experience). Anyone using Apple? It is interesting it works with older windows versions.

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