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Post by henrikhank » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:14 pm

Hi!
I will play the tune Autumn leaves in a jazz ensemble. This will requier me to play some kind of comping. The melody will be sung by the vocalist. This means that there are two hands for comping.
Do you have any tips which could lead me in the right direction? I Kinda get the idea of the LH jazz chords and how you find them.
If I don't play the melody it seems I have hands for playing them jazz chords.
What is the easiest thing (or least difficult thing) one can do?
Please lead me in the right direction.

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Re: autumn leaves

Post by debra » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:42 pm

henrikhank wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:14 pm
Hi!
I will play the tune Autumn leaves in a jazz ensemble. ...
If I don't play the melody it seems I have hands for playing them jazz chords.
What is the easiest thing (or least difficult thing) one can do?
Please lead me in the right direction.
What I would do is play base notes and chord with the left hand. Jazz chords can easily be played by using a combination of two chord buttons. You need for instance Cm7 (c minor + es major) and Bes major 7 (bes major + d minor)...
This leaves you with your right hand available for improvising alternative melodies (that should go together with what others are doing).
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Re: autumn leaves

Post by henrikhank » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:26 pm

How should the B7(b5) be voiced?
I'm playing the tune in Am.

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Re: autumn leaves

Post by Glenn » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:36 pm

Would that be a B bass + Dm ?


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Re: autumn leaves

Post by debra » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:01 am

Glenn wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:36 pm
Would that be a B bass + Dm ?

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Yep, but the chord itself can be made by Dm + Ddim (knowing that Ddim does not give the 4 notes of Ddim as it does not have the As we don't want). But when you use the base note you don't here a difference between B + Dm and B + Dm + Ddim.
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Re: autumn leaves

Post by Glenn » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:10 am

Ok.
I use B bass + Dm as I have a 3x3 bass arrangement and don't have the dim row. I guess all these methods will give a slightly differing "colour" to the sound. It's what makes accordions so interesting.


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Re: autumn leaves

Post by debra » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:38 pm

Glenn wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:10 am
Ok.
I use B bass + Dm as I have a 3x3 bass arrangement and don't have the dim row. I guess all these methods will give a slightly differing "colour" to the sound. It's what makes accordions so interesting.

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If you have a 3x3 arrangement where the 7 doubles as dim (so to play Ddim you play G7 which has b-d-f in that case) you can do Dm + G7 to obtain the full desired chord.
But there are 3x3 arrangements where the 7 cannot double as dim (so G7 would have g-b-f or even g-b-d-f). I have seen both types and would recommend to avoid them.
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Re: autumn leaves

Post by losthobos » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm

You sure it's not a Bm7b5....leading to E7.... not sure what key you are playing in....
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Re: autumn leaves

Post by PolishMoonPolkaTrio » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:57 pm

losthobos is right. If you're playing in Amin, you won't have a B7(b5) chord. Its a Bmin7(b5), played by combining a B bass with a Dmin chord. If you really are looking for a B7(b5), it is played by combining a B bass with a F7 chord. But again, if you're playing Autumn Leaves in Amin, you're not going to use that chord.

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Re: autumn leaves

Post by Glenn » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:04 pm

debra wrote:
Glenn wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:10 am
Ok.
I use B bass + Dm as I have a 3x3 bass arrangement and don't have the dim row. I guess all these methods will give a slightly differing "colour" to the sound. It's what makes accordions so interesting.

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If you have a 3x3 arrangement where the 7 doubles as dim (so to play Ddim you play G7 which has b-d-f in that case) you can do Dm + G7 to obtain the full desired chord.
But there are 3x3 arrangements where the 7 cannot double as dim (so G7 would have g-b-f or even g-b-d-f). I have seen both types and would recommend to avoid them.
Indeed, that's the arrangement I have. I have it also set on my FR8X so I have a consistent arrangement on all my accordions.


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Re: autumn leaves

Post by henrikhank » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:44 am

debra wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:01 am
Glenn wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:36 pm
Would that be a B bass + Dm ?

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Yep, but the chord itself can be made by Dm + Ddim (knowing that Ddim does not give the 4 notes of Ddim as it does not have the As we don't want). But when you use the base note you don't here a difference between B + Dm and B + Dm + Ddim.
Not giving the four notes? What do you mean?

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