Trying to improve sight-reading

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by george garside » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:01 pm

I agree totally with the notion of playing scales etc in the key you are about to use and think that, as a broad generalisation, scale practice is regarded as something more for learners than experienced players.

being able to rattle off scales on auto pilot is akin to 'knowing the route' along which one will travel to a destination. Different scales are different routes to the destination. i.e along which you travel to produce a tune in a particular key.

It is important at a relatively early stage to get the hang of 12 or a least a good proportion thereof!. This has the distinct advantage of being able to ply the same tune in several scales and to if necessary play in a scale other than the one written ( I think the French call that solmisation or something like that).

of course continental players can manage with one 'scalesworth ' of fingering but 3 is better and British Chromatic players need to master 5.

Often when I pick up the box I randomly run through a few keys and am no great respecter of 'that tune must be played in that key'

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Alans » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:03 pm

Thank-you all for the information you have provided me. After posting last night I came up with idea that Corsaire mentions-I think I need to start sight reading at a much lower level then I play right now. And then just gradually
build it up. Plus add sight-reading to every practise session , hopefully that will produced results. I used to play all of the major scales but I stopped and I think that is something I need to incorporate again.
Once again thanks for your comments, they all help.

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Soulsaver » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:37 pm

Just found this - 7 Principles Of Sight Reading - covers some of the points we made earlier ..plus more. It is part of a paid for course - no connection, know nothing about the course, other than what you see in this clip.
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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Pianoman1 » Wed May 17, 2017 10:13 am

Interesting comments Being partially sighted I have to memorise music which helps me Takes time but it means I am not peering at dots

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I am thinking of offering one to one sight reading lessons for accordionists as short courses for absolute beginners - covering both clefs - my own teacher admits he is not good on the bass clef - reading chords - covering rhythms - and booster courses for more experienced players The main aim of teaching is to identify student needs and help them to solve the problem

I would also cover standard chord sequences as well

With my own piano pupils the bass clef is a particular problem and constant practice is the only answer
Thoughts abuse etc

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Tom » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:03 pm

I am interested to know your thoughts on hand position when you want to sight read (by this I mean, when you want to play a series of tunes with others, that you have not seen before). Like, do you have certain "home base" positions you go to? Like, in the key of G I know where the notes are relative to my first finger on G, and if I need to go higher, I go to my thumb on C? Or do you have several standard hand positions for each key? Or do you just sort of follow the notes, moving your hand around because you know the keyboard so well that it doesn't matter? I find my self playing along, being conscious of where my fingers are relative to the notes until I come to a note that is 7 (6, 5, whatever) notes away and can't seem to get there in time and/or decide which finger to use. ??????

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Rhelsing » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Tom,
I have never given this any thought until you asked. So, giving it some thought now - I don't do anything which means that after a while you get familiar with the key board. It just comes from practice. It is not just where you put your hand to start, it is that as you read the music your eye-hand coordination over time just gets you to the right notes and ina position (particularly concerning runs) where your fingering is going to work out OK. i think it is like reading a book - when we first started in the First grade reading "See Jim run" we read one word a a time. Somewhere in life we went to the point where we actually read phrases and more at a glance. Reading music is the same thing - after a while you will see phrases of music just ahead of where you are playing and your hand will get into the right position all by itself. Same on jumps - you will be able to make long jumps and end up at the right place. (Although even experience players mat occasionally "peak" at long runs. Just play and enjoy it, it will come sooner than you think.

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Re: Trying to improve sight-reading

Post by Tom » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:51 pm

Thanks Rhelsing, for these encouraging words! Kind of what I imagined and can't wait to get there, willing to work at it too!

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