Six Of The Best.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:54 am

Hi Tony,

Can't say I know it, but that is all part of this "getting to know you" exercise.

Thanks to the members who have contributed to this thread, I now have some sense of their likes and dislikes. All the contributions have been interesting and informative, and have provided an insight into musical tastes which goes beyond what is normally available.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by rancoman » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:39 am

StargazerTony wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:00 pm
Not sure I have a six pack of songs, yet. I must discount the ones my teacher has me endlessly practice although Drink To Me Only With Thine Eyes is a rather nice English song I enjoy playing. I tend to get into a rut and play say waltzes or polkas, or tangos endlessly until my wife gives me "the look", then I move on. The titles of songs that several have posted seem interesting and was wondering if some could upload the song to the "I Like That!" section or their YouTube channel?


I just noticed that! Brilliant idea, and a good challenge for a bit of fun among forum members as well.

It doesn't matter how good any of us are at playing, it's the spirit of the thing. I accept the challenge and I'll try to get something on as soon as I can work out an easy way to do it. Of course I'll pick the easiest one!

Expect a low standard, so you won't be disappointed! :b

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by george garside » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:34 pm

Perhaps those of us struggling to choose a favourite ' six' would find it easier if we are allowed ,so to speak, to select groups of 6 loosely related tunes. maybe by purpose/function, rhythm, time signature, nationality etc etc.

To start the ball rolling I will assume that permission has been granted by somebody or nobody whoever they may be!

My favourite 'marches' which can of course be played at a speed to suite dancing eg as in English Ceilidh, barndancce or whatever, for processing, or just for listening to.

Tiperary
pack up your troubles,
79ths farewell to gibralter
dovecote park
happy wanderer
cock of the north
british grenadiers

bugger! I could easily add another half dozen! maybe waltzes next time or perhaps slow aires or ??

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by JeffJetton » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:48 pm

StargazerTony wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:54 am
How about La valse d'Amélie
A modern classic, IMHO. Good call!

In fact, it inspired me to write my own composition! It's basically a pastiche of the "Amelie" waltz, but was specifically written to not have any leaps in the left hand. All the chord movement is either "one floor up" or "one floor down".

I use it as an etude for my students, to give them a more gentle introduction to minor chords than the Palmer-Hughes books do. i initially wanted to use the real "Amelie" waltz for that purpose, but the A-minor to F-major leap can be tricky for a beginner.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by JeffJetton » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:00 pm

george garside wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:34 pm
My favourite 'marches'
Wasn't that an old TV show starring Ray Walston? :D

A lot of the marches I like tend to be Viennese. Perhaps because Vienna is one of my all-time favorite cities, and playing these lets me take a quick musical vacation there...

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by StargazerTony » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:47 pm

JeffJetton wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:48 pm
!

In fact, it inspired me to write my own composition! It's basically a pastiche of the "Amelie" waltz, but was specifically written to not have any leaps in the left hand. All the chord movement is either "one floor up" or "one floor down".

I use it as an etude for my students, to give them a more gentle introduction to minor chords than the Palmer-Hughes books do. i initially wanted to use the lreal "Amelie" waltz for that purpose, but the A-minor to F-major leap can be tricky for a beginner.
Hi Jeff. Interesting. In my second month of instruction, my teacher gave me a song that had jumps from F to Abm to Gm in three measures. They were ugly at first. I took on "Amelie" on my own and am still working on the interludes
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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by debra » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:13 pm

This is an interesting thread, especially because when I try to think of six of the best (not necessarily the top 6 but 6 good ones) there isn't much overlap between my list and that of others.
Here are 6 good ones for me, in no particular order.
I am only listing music that I played, mostly together with others.
The Old Lithuanian Gramophone Record by Viktor Novikov:

Violin-duo Concerto by Bach, second movement:

Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquin Rodrigo:

Gabriel's Oboe by Ennio Morricone:

"Turks Fruit" (actually two songs from the movie) by Rogier van Otterloo, for accordion solo:

Bluesette by Toots Thielemans:
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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:05 pm

Wonderful responses from all ......... I am truly impressed by the rich diversity of tunes you have offered up, and can't wait to read additions to your lists.

I currently enjoy playing a medley, the constituent tunes of which are "Mull of Kintyre" & "Wild Mountain Thyme." It feels especially appropriate when we are out in the countryside.(which is most days) As I have both tunes absolutely nailed, and need no musical notation, I am able to seamlessly switch from one tune to the other.

Anyone else dabble in medleys?

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by wirralaccordion » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:22 pm

Yes, as an example I play the first part of Milord and it leads very naturally into He holds the whole world in His hands ( both in D ).
Also, some tunes are almost identical and without words you wouldn't be able to identify them apart.
Incidentally I noticed a question on Edith Pfaf/La vie en rose on Pointless today. ( This is quite a popular tea time show here in the UK ).

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:05 pm

Hi George,

Please feel free to post whatever you like. My only reason for suggesting a limit was in order that those reading contributions could easily assimilate the information. It was meant to be more of a "snapshot" than anything more complex.

I also found it difficult to prune my playlist down to a mere six tunes, so I did expand my list in a subsequent post. Please do post more of your favourites, and categorise them as you see fit.

All the contributions have been fascinating to read, and I am really looking forward to reading many more.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:22 pm

Hi Phil,

We record Pointless & Eggheads every day, as we may not arrive home in time to watch them. We also record University Challenge, Mastermind and Only Connect. I look forward to seeing the Pointless episode you mention.

I love La Vie en Rose, though I have not yet played it as part of a medley. In fact, I have played it through three or four times today.

As regards Edith Piaf, there is a strange and slightly macabre story about her death. As I understand it, Edith died at her villa in the South of France, but her agent felt that, for publicity reasons, her death should occur in Paris.

It seems (whether it is fable or not) that her body was placed in the back seat of a car, and driven through the night to Paris. She was pronounced dead by her own Doctor in Paris, and the news of her death was announced later that morning.

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Six Of The Best.

Post by colinm » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:52 pm

Why am I not surprised that no one has chosen any of my favourites

Bell Viso, Tollefsens playing of the counter rhythm section always fascinates me

Simonetta, Martin Lukins,not many examples of this on youtube

Olive blossoms, another Frosini, the last section sounds really good, and not too difficult.

Montes Czardas, duet arrangement by Eclemann, not as difficult as it looks

Style musette, can nearly play this

Caro Mio Ben, Herwig Peychar duet, can play this if I practice.

Nola, nearly there after playing it twice a day for six years



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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:05 pm

Hi Colin,

I think you may find that Olive Blossoms has been mentioned, though you are right about the others.

Is your list just about your favourite tunes, or are these the ones at the top of your playlist? I would be interested to know which tunes you play most frequently, rather than those you aspire to. (if they are different)

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by colinm » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:49 pm

Stephen
What i play most frequently depends on what my teacher has given me

Currently on my music stand is Marcha Espanol, Dizzy Accordion and Box and Fiddle Rag, plus Nola and Style
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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by george garside » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:31 pm

colinm wrote:
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Stephen
What i play most frequently depends on what my teacher has given me

Currently on my music stand is Marcha Espanol, Dizzy Accordion and Box and Fiddle Rag, plus Nola and Style
it is generally a good idea to play tunes of your own choosing because you like them in addition to what your teacher dishes up! It is also a good idea to have a crack at playing some tunes by ear starting with ones that are well implanted in your memory

george :evil: ;)

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by colinm » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:37 pm

George
I believe playing by ear is a gift and I do not have it, take the music away and i cannot play the next bar, I can play some tunes from memory, but only if I play them regularly
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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:38 pm

Thank you, Colin.

The intention of this thread was to encourage discussion about the kind of music our fellow members enjoy, which is bound to differ from person to person.

It has also highlighted a variety of different approaches to music, all of which interest me. In fact, as I only play music I like, it seems clear that we learn in different ways.

I now know what your accordion tutor likes, but am still not quite sure what your musical tastes and aspirations are.

I appreciate your contribution very much, and hope that you will expand on your post a little.

Thank You.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by Stephen Hawkins » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:58 pm

Hi George,

I play quite a few tunes from memory, which is something I always try to do with any tune I learn.

It appears, however, that the 51 year hiatus in my musical "career" has caused me to lose the art/knack/ability of playing by ear. Back then, in those halcyon days, I could buy a new record and learn the music by playing along to it.

Back then, the Clarinet was my instrument of choice, and I learned "Stranger on the Shore" by buying Aker Bilk's record and playing along with it. I could usually manage to play most of the tunes I could hum, but I was 51 years younger then. That makes a huge difference.

I couldn't agree more with your advice to Colin. I wouldn't waste a single second of my life learning stuff I didn't like. One of the first things I told my tutor was that I would only play what I liked, and he fully understood my reasoning. I now only see my tutor when he is performing somewhere or I visit his home for a chat. We have become very good friends, which is how it should be.

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by JeffJetton » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:07 pm

colinm wrote:
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I believe playing by ear is a gift and I do not have it, take the music away and i cannot play the next bar, I can play some tunes from memory, but only if I play them regularly
At the risk of hijacking an excellent thread, and no offense to Colin, but I just wanted to chime in say that I believe--strongly--quite the opposite.

Well, when people use the phrase "playing by ear" they sometimes mean "learning a song via a recording rather than sheet music", and sometimes they mean "playing a song without sheet music present, even if you learned it via sheet music" (in other words, memorization).

Either way though, my stance is the same. They are both learned skills and not "gifts".

Assuming they want to do so, anyone can develop their memorized repertoire, and anyone can improve their ability to learn songs aurally... if they make a point to work at it (and if they have the patience and passion to persevere when progress is slow).

Maybe it's not so much a "gift" as it is a "reward"? The prize you get when you do the work, rather than something you're just given without having to do anything to earn it? Instead of calling someone a "very gifted musician", we could more accurately say they were a "very rewarded musician". :D

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Re: Six Of The Best.

Post by donn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:47 pm

Sure ... even if we're not strictly identical, it's a rare person who can't sing a song all the way through, or hum it anyway, and yet persists in playing a musical instrument. If you can sing a song, then all that remains is to achieve that same control over your fingers, as you have over your larynx, and you can play it.

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