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tinnitus...

Post by losthobos » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm

I've got a bee in my bonnet...
Let's talk about tinnitus...
Who knows what re living with it...cures...etc
Thanks in advance...
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Re: tinnitus...

Post by Howie » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:34 pm

Me too. I don't know about any cures, except that some things will increase the ringing.

Regarding living with it, the only real thing I know is that it bugs me most if I concentrate on it. Hard as it sounds, ignoring it and trying not to focus on it, provides me with the most relief.

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Post by george garside » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:49 pm

I presume this has something to do with box playing, tuning of boxes etc and the effect variations thereof may have on a tinnitus sufferer??

The only thought I have on the subject, which may be totally irrelevant, is it dry or wet tuning exacerbate the tinnitus?
or maybe playing with or without the low reed set in play?

for what its worth I would have thought that dry tuning with low reed in play would have least effect, but again??????
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Post by JerryPH » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:38 am

It is a medical condition... a constant high pitched sound that is heard "in the head" more than anywhere else.

https://www.tinnitus.org.uk/all-about-t ... aQodrcoMrA

I've lived with a fairly non-intrusive level of this for most of my life. Likely due to my days of dancing in uber-loud discotheques as a teen and young adult... lol

For me more stress means higher or louder levels of it, and I can tell when I am very stressed when it gets bothersome. Right now, I just came back from a horrible day at work, and it's pretty evident. For me it's not a hum or whooshing sound, but a constant very high unchanging note that never ends.

As mentioned, ignoring it seems to work best for me too.
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Post by Stephen Hawkins » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:53 am

My tinnitus comes on only occasionally but it is, thankfully, of short duration. I have had it for years now, but it is so mild as to be almost irrelevant.

One of my nieces suffers quite badly with it, and it can really get her down.

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Post by losthobos » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:44 am

Thankyou....i can generally ignore
Stephen..interesting that is intermittent ...I'd say might is sporadic...sometimes softer sometimes louder....worse when I'm driving
Have considered wether linking to hay fever, colds, allergy....would be very interested to find the 'triggers' and avoid them if possible...
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Post by george garside » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:14 pm

so are we saying that box playing does not exacerbate or bring on an episode of tinnitus

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Post by george garside » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:15 pm

so are we saying that box playing does not exacerbate or bring on an episode of tinnitus

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Post by Shand79MorinoMan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:39 pm

My Tinnitus was caused by clay pigeon and game shooting. I had to make a choice keep shooting and go completely deaf and not be able to hear my box. That was 30 years ago My Box won the day!
I manage my tinnitus fairly well the main irritant are very loud music usually caused by some of the bands who play at accordion and fiddle clubs. They seem to think that the audience at all deaf and cannot hear them. The best way to hear them is for them to play with out all this fancy equipment turned on full bore !
I think if you play too loudly it only encourages the audience to start talking which gives me the impression that they are not really interested in what is being played. Another sauce of activation is badly set up equipment which starts to scream and make very unpleasant noises. These things are very painful at the time and will guarantee my tinnitus to start screaming around 2am when I am woken up with very high pitched screaming in both ears and fortunately does not last too long.
Once a week a group of us gather to play a few tunes. there can be 25 accordions, ten fiddles, two drummers and a pianist. The leader uses an accordion with midi and there are two mics to which we all to go to take turn in leading the group, the resultant sound is really good and I never have any problems with tinnitus attacks.
I would add that I always turn my hearing aids off as they amplify everything far to much. When the going gets tough I resort to using ear plugs!!
Finally, If loud noises in the work place are governed by the number of decibels that are allowed why oh! why is it allowed every where else when we all know it can lead to hearing and deafness. I have heard street buskers who were so loud it really hurt my ears and must have made the shop and office works lives totally miserable. END OF RANT!! :hb {} :ch
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Post by Glenn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:44 pm

losthobos wrote:I've got a bee in my bonnet...
Let's talk about tinnitus...
Who knows what re living with it...cures...etc
Thanks in advance...
Maybe a stupid question but I assume you've spoken to a medical specialist about this?


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Re: tinnitus...

Post by losthobos » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:30 pm

No Glenn...not a stupid assumption at all...
I haven't seen a medical specialist...and only suffer a mild sort of high pitched whistle in my ears sporadically...other people have told me that it comes and goes for them also...as it seems intermittent this made me wonder if there may be some trigger sound, colds, hay fever, food allergy etc that may bring the condition on...just an idea ...thanks for considering
Thinking about it more I probably should consider medical advice in just it is a symptom of an underlying condition...but being a male I'll probably avoid the doctor at all costs under the assumption that I'm immortal until it's too late..😔
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Post by Shand79MorinoMan » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:13 pm

This morning I had my 6 monthly check up with our local audiology dept. Today I have been issued with new hearing aids and they seem to be much better for listening to human voices. I have now tried playing my box and am pleased to report that it now sounds much more acceptable, I am delighted !!
I would say this if you have problems hearing it could be as simple as too much wax in the ear, go and see a medic and get it checked out, remember a little olive oil in each ear keeps free from too much wax.
I have noticed over recent years that PA and CBA players have a tendency to lean over their instruments with an ear placed on the top of the grill, I do not think this will help anyone with tinnitus and might well go a long way to causing it! {} :D :) ;)
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Re: tinnitus...

Post by losthobos » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:07 pm

Good call Roy...I'm guilty of said head motion...
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Post by Geoff de Limousin » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:12 pm

Shand79MorinoMan wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:13 pm


I have noticed over recent years that PA and CBA players have a tendency to lean over their instruments with an ear placed on the top of the grill, I do not think this will help anyone with tinnitus and might well go a long way to causing it! {} :D :) ;)
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Post by Stephen Hawkins » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:59 pm

Hi Terry,

My niece, Karen, suffers very badly with tinnitus. She tells me that "white noise" helps her to cope with it, though I can't quite see how that can be quantified.

Anyway, just a thought.

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Re: tinnitus...

Post by JerryPH » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm

Well, odd that this came up at this time, but earlier this week at work, I had a bad incident where wearing headphones was mandatory for long periods of time, I had to go through a call where the volumes were very loud. After the call, I had to rip the headphones off as the pain in my head was like someone slowly shoving a knife in it, and from that point, I heard a clear strong high pitched tone constant and never ending.

I went to my doctor who sent me to a ear specialist who sent me for a hearing test. Luckily I have hearing that is a bit above normal for a 20 year old but the new stronger tinnitus will likely be there for the rest of my life. The pain in my ear is ever so slowly subsiding, and that is what I am most concerned about.

One week of forced vacation on me and I am to not wear headphones and not listen to anything above normal conversation of volume.(TV, radio, etc...). The TV and radio cause me pain in the right ear, but strangely enough, normal conversation and the accordion amazingly do not cause any discomfort!

Guess that means no TV and more accordion... lol

Kidding aside, it is very painful, and I find it difficult to sleep at night with this single very high pitched tone. I think the doc measured it at approximately 15,000Hz (by sending measured tones out and asking me if it was higher or lower), and that this was unusually higher in pitch than what others measured. He had a chuckle that I told him not only was it very high, but that it was an unwatering consistent note of A or La!
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Re: tinnitus...

Post by donn » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:02 pm

I've wondered if absolute ("perfect") pitch depends on a built-in reference tone.

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Post by JerryPH » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:16 pm

It would not surprise me if that is how it works with others, because that is how it always worked for me. My reference point was always middle "C". No idea why... lol
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Post by JIM D. » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:06 pm

The reason why is the key of "C" is a Predominant concert key, Used world wide with a reference to the piano keyboard itself. Most musician's that play and can read Horn, string and woodwind, can picture a piano keyboard and transpose using different fingerings.
Now this is with the exception of button box players that have no need of knowledge of changing the fingering to change key, but just move a button up or down to change the key itself.
Now PA accordion players when working with horns know that they prefer the keys of Bb and Eb. When working with strings (Guitars) the prefer'ed keys are G to E. With us PA players we learn to transpose (different sharps & flats) but the button box guys just move a few buttons up or down.
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Post by StargazerTony » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:03 pm

My tinnitus seems to disappear when I'm playing my accordion. Perhaps they are in tune with each other
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