Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

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Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Wed May 23, 2018 11:32 am

For our retro duo I am trying to convert a song to accordion.

It is this song:
https://youtu.be/Cn1vJk3ooRE?t=40s

It is certainly a piano piece with this vibe..but how would you prepare this for 1 accordion?

Help is much appreciated, ideas etc

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by Geronimo » Wed May 23, 2018 11:36 am

jozz wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:32 am
For our retro duo I am trying to convert a song to accordion.

It is this song:
https://youtu.be/Cn1vJk3ooRE?t=40s

It is certainly a piano piece with this vibe..but how would you prepare this for 1 accordion?

Help is much appreciated, ideas etc
"Retro duo" means the melody will be sung by the other musician?

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Wed May 23, 2018 1:26 pm

No the lyrics will be sung by the other, and I will accompany her (or maybe that's what you meant as well)

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Wed May 23, 2018 1:33 pm

So basically it is about creating an accordion piece that will match the piano piece in rythm and "vibe".

She insists on doing this song, but I have no idea yet

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by Geronimo » Wed May 23, 2018 7:31 pm

jozz wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 1:33 pm
So basically it is about creating an accordion piece that will match the piano piece in rythm and "vibe".

She insists on doing this song, but I have no idea yet
As a very rough idea, I looked at chordify for the chords involved then tried basically playing the bass runs/hand of the piano on the Stradella bass buttons and substituting the current chord for notes that are part of the current chord. That leaves your right hand for the kind of arpeggiated stuff the original piano accompaniment does.

Seemed to work comparatively well, but doing that for the whole piece and then practising it would be a real wagonload of work. If you don't want to buy into that, starting with the chords and just doing some run-of-the-mill accordion pattern around it might be feasible.

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Wed May 23, 2018 8:23 pm

yes we must keep it relatively simple, because I'm going to have to play this from memory
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then tried basically playing the bass runs/hand of the piano on the Stradella bass buttons and substituting the current chord for notes that are part of the current chord. That leaves your right hand for the kind of arpeggiated stuff the original piano accompaniment does.
On what count would you play the bass note: only on 1? Or..?

so far I've come up with following :

verses (the slower parts): both hands play long notes/chords
chorus : bass plays 4/4 pattern but with accents on the 2 and 4 (chord buttons), right hand plays some improv within the chords

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by Geronimo » Wed May 23, 2018 9:48 pm

jozz wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:23 pm
yes we must keep it relatively simple, because I'm going to have to play this from memory
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Wed May 23, 2018 7:31 pm
then tried basically playing the bass runs/hand of the piano on the Stradella bass buttons and substituting the current chord for notes that are part of the current chord. That leaves your right hand for the kind of arpeggiated stuff the original piano accompaniment does.
On what count would you play the bass note: only on 1? Or..?
Well, on 1. But since I was trying to put the bass runs there, it usually was there on 1+ as well with the chord tending to fall on 1 and some semiregular pattern but quite a few bass notes in between. As I said: that was just a really rough sketch of something that would take some work to become the kind of stuff you buy as finished accordion arrangement and then curse a month over. So probably not going to cut it for your purpose. Just an idea of how to come up with a first sketch not awfully in the oompah ballpark.
so far I've come up with following :

verses (the slower parts): both hands play long notes/chords
chorus : bass plays 4/4 pattern but with accents on the 2 and 4 (chord buttons), right hand plays some improv within the chords
Sounds like you got sort of a plan for getting this over with.

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Post by Keymn » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:29 pm

The important part of this song is the singers lyrics. If it were me, I would just play the chords and fill in to enhance the singer. If the singer wants perfection, then get a karaoke backing track. Unfortunately, they use that in most musicals today, even in Vegas.
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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:34 pm

hi

no it does not need to be perfection, it may be something different but usable for the song (and good sounding)

I was hoping on some creative pointers before I actually start on it :mrgreen:

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:38 pm

we started on it today I will post some recordings soon to get a better idea of what needs to be worked on

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by donn » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:27 am

Geronimo wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:48 pm
Just an idea of how to come up with a first sketch not awfully in the oompah ballpark.
I'd go right to the oompah ballpark. That walking bass line is idiomatic for the string bass, works well with its particular attack/sustain profile etc. Not for accordion. As pointed out above, all that's really called for here is some notes in the background. Take into account that I'm a notorious, life long under-achiever, but that's how I see it.

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Re: Help me create accordion accompaniment for this song?

Post by jozz » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:19 pm

oompa pa it was...

we worked something out as a first try but I think this is about it {}

enjoy:
https://instaud.io/2pEt

PS. it's in Dutch and it's about a little balloon
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